Applies To Product(s): AECOsim Building Designer V8i Version(s): 08.11.09.829 Environment: N/A Area: Drawing Views Subarea: Levels Original Author: Marc Thomas Compressing a file during a session where Drawing Views are going to be created can result in incorrect results. As described in Unwanted Levels in AECOsim Building Designer DGN Files and the linked items, ABD copies required levels from the dataset into each file on open to support the creation of elements on those levels during Drawing View creation. If a user runs a compress that includes the LEVELS and LEVELTABLES options these levels will be deleted and Drawing Views will be created with missing elements. To avoid this: Train users not to compress files during sessions where Drawing Views will be created. If a file compress is run that includes the LEVELS and LEVELTABLES options just close and reopen the file (key-in 'newfile' is one quick way to do this), the levels will be copied in again. The Compress options can be pre-set to avoid level deletion by adding the following statement in the site configuration: MS_COMPRESS_OPTIONS = +ALL;-BUILDING_DATASET_ELEMENTS;-BUILDING_DISPLAY_ACCELERATORS;- LEVELS;- LEVELTABLES Users can still override the settings but they will revert on the next file open See Also Product TechNotes and FAQs Building Product TechNotes And FAQs External Links Bentley Technical Support KnowledgeBase Bentley LEARN Server Comments or Corrections? Bentley's Technical Support Group requests that you please confine any comments you have on this Wiki entry to this "Comments or Corrections?" section. THANK YOU! MS_COMPRESS_OPTIONS = +ALL;-BUILDING_DATASET_ELEMENTS;-BUILDING_DISPLAY_ACCELERATORS;- LEVELS;- LEVELTABLES
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Wiki Page: Dynamic View Creation Affected by Compress Options
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Forum Post: We Need Separate Forward and Reflected Attributes for parts
Here is one example why. I place a Mass Cabinet in a drawing The wall mount is a different part from the base cabinet as currently in ABD GOOD SO FAR When I look at the cabinet in Elevation it is fine and tells the story - Good So Far When I look at the plat at 3'-6" It shows the Plan fine but the cabinet above - IF SHOWN - is solid and not dashed as it should be. Automation is thus LOST
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Wiki Page: Hidden Line Of Structural Elements In Drawing Views
Applies To Product(s): AECOsim Building Designer Version(s): 08.11.09.593 Environment: N/A Area: Drawing Views Subarea: Display Style/Presentation Original Author: Gerard Torres, Bentley Technical Support Group Problem Description We are having severe problems with using Dynamic Views in Structural Building Designer, The problem revolves around structural hidden lines. DV is simply incapable of producing the correct results. DV-PlanNoHidden is a plan on the slab. Already you'll see there are errors with unification where the pads & beams lie in thesame plane as the top of the slab. This does not happen with DEM. DV-PlanHidden is the reflected DV to show the true structural hidde n line. No unification, and the "fold" lines between the edge beams & pads and the central pads & slab are missing. (These appear if you switch to cached attachment.) DV-Compiled is an attempt to reference them together, but as they are the same file, MicroStation is incapable of displaying them both. (We have tested this set up with the Drawing models in separate files and, although they now both reference, one file hides the other as they are views of solid elements rather than extracted linework, as per DEM.) DV-Plan, which includes hidden edges, using the Forward (show hidden edges) display style. The results of this are totally wrong, although this is somewhat expected, and hence why we always use a reflected underside view to generate the structural hidden lines. Steps to Resolve After closer examination, the reason why you are seeing the results you see is because of the way the modeling was done, meaning that it is not a Drawing View issue but more of how the structure was created in the program. Here the problem lies where the elements are intercepting/clashing with the slab and it is the reason why you are seeing less than satisfactory results in the drawing views. In this case, when modeling make sure that the elements are not clashing or intercepting instead make sure that they are just touching and that way the drawing views hidden line engine will generate the symbology with better accuracy and results. the Dynamic View unification algorithm called “Unification Glue” was introduced when AECOsim was first released - The Unification Glue will "not" perform unifications on elements that are crossing or have embedded geometry but it will unify elements that are coincident. It is possible to disable the unification GLUE so that you may model the elements as you wish (intercepting or not) after the variable has been disabled make sure to use the Key-in to refresh the variable and this will also refresh the DV(s). Variable and Key-in command: -Variable > BB_UNIFICATION_GLUE - To disable = MERGE. -Key-in > MDL COMMAND DVREFRESH.(Use lowercase)
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Wiki Page: RFA Interpreter
Applies To Product(s): AECOsim Building Designer Version(s): 08.11.09.747 Environment: N\A Area: Dataset and Content Subarea: N\A Original Author: Robert DiMauro, Bentley Technical Support Group Problem Description If I don't like an existing style of any type of PAZ file that I have, how can I change it? Steps to Resolve You could open the paz file in Parametric Cell Studio and maked modifications to it there and then save it back to the cell folder to be used as a parametric cell. If you prefer to just have a different type of cell that is already created, there is another option: The RFA Interpreter enables you to use parametric content in RFA format that is readily available from manufacturers on the internet, extending Bentley’s interoperability even further. What is RFA? An RFA is Revit’s file format for storing their parametric families (parametric components) and are similar to AECOsim's PAZ files for parametric components. The RFA Interpreter in AECOsim Building Designer WILL allow the RFA to: Access and select the types defined within the RFA R etain its native parametric behaviors and properties, which will be exercisable in AECOsim Building Designer (such as lengths and angles) Retain its business properties (Such as manufacturer, catalog number, and fire rating) Retain its perforator, to allow content to cut openings (such as doors and windows) Retain its mechanical & plumbing connection points (for air handlers, plumbing fixtures, etc.) Retain its 2D plan and elevation symbols Register itself with the DataGroup Catalog, mapping its business and parametric properties to counterparts in AECOsim Building Designer Map RFA attributes to ABD symbology and/or Part & Family Behave like a native ABD element (similar to BXF or PAZ) Support RFA content versions 2009-2014 The RFA interpreter in AECOsim Building Designer DOES NOT support: Revit system types (walls, curtain wall, stairs, etc..) 2D only RFAs (title blocks tags, profiles, etc..) Embedded formats (DWG, SKP, etc. placed inside the RFA) Changing the original RFA definition The process of reading that RFA content is broken into two stages: (1) Import the data from the RFAs into the DataGroup catalog and (2) Place the RFAs into your project. In step 1, a Wizard helps you map the RFA category, properties, and object styles to the equivalent AECOsim Building Designer category, properties, and Parts & Families. Each Type that is defined in the RFA becomes a DataGroup Catalog Entry. After going through this mapping process, the RFAs will look, act, and report similarly to how the existing AECOsim Building Designer content does. In step 2, you will use the existing AECOsim Building Designer tools to place the RFAs. The Place Door tool will place RFA-based doors. Place User Defined will place most architectural furniture and equipment. Currently, a new Place Mechanical tool will place RFA-based air handling units, plumbing equipment, and other mechanical and plumbing content. See the linked video, highlighting the RFA interpreter using RFA content within AECOsim Building Designer .
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Forum Post: RE: ABD ss6 on Windows 10
Ah yes, it may have been the deferral option I was thinking of.
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Forum Post: RE: We Need Separate Forward and Reflected Attributes for parts
Are you placing the Plan Call Out above the wall cabinets or across?
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Forum Post: RE: We Need Separate Forward and Reflected Attributes for parts
Strongly agree - and in communities.bentley.com/.../106776 you had some additional related requests: in your item 1), two things - in F&P a) to be able to resymbolise forward views differently from reverse (reflected) views; and also b) to be able to resymbolise vertical section cuts differently from horizontal plan cuts. in your items 2) and 3), as I understand it you were asking to be able to resymbolise all of the above, differently, depending on Level of Detail (LOD) i.e. depending on the presentation scale chosen in the final Sheet model. Your suggestion was to sort-of achieve this by a shortcut Unify All buton, so everything gets unified in small scale drawings, while in larger scale drawings the full F&P resymbolisation/unification settings apply. I'd prefer to see it done systematically, with a user-specified no of Sheet model scale ranges specified for each Part and Compound Part e.g. up to 1:5, 1.6 to 1:25, 1:26 to 1:100, 1:101 and above and for each of these ranges, different resymbolisation settings set in F&P for each Part and Compound Part. The present disfunctional-Excel spreadsheet format, already requiring vast screen width because of lots of hard-wired unnecessary white space, no WordWrap, no col width auto-adjust, and no remembering of adjusted col widths etc, would never accomodate all these extra settings - but that should not be a reason to make resymbolisation truly, usefully, customisably automated. Would be so good to invest time to tweak these settings to get drawing presentation really legible, for the office's typical styles of output - do it once, systematically, globally adjustable - and then never again have to do it by fiddling with Level settings etc again and again at output time. I have a further request, my item 4) - something that I heard has already been implimented in SS6, at least Structural, but I haven't gone looking: as well as Cut, Forward and Reverse (reflected), two more categories: Hidden Below/Beyond Hidden Above/Behind Every architect makes much use, in output (sheet) drawings, of dotted-outline lines to show e.g. 'framing behind the sheetrock' in a room-elevation view, or 'slab edge below floor' or 'beam above ceiling' in a plan view. So in F&P there would be yet more resymbolisation settings, controlling resymbolisation of edges of elements that are non-visible because hidden behind other full-view elements. Each Part would have different linestyles specified for (some of) its edges, one linestyle for edges which lie Below/Beyond, one linestyle for edges which lie Above/Behind. Then, in the 3D model, just one or more edges of selected 3D elements would be picked/activated - the simplified outline that the architect wants to see as a dotted/dashed line in output (sheet) drawings, indicating major elements invisible but Below/Beyond or Above/Behind. For those selected/nominated edges, their presentation as linetype in output (sheet) drawings would be as specified in F&P for that Part. You might say this differs little from doing same as 'embelishment' 2D linework in the Drawing or Sheet model - but the advantage of doing it within F&P and then simply pick/activating certain edges of certain 3D elements within the 3D Model, is that as the 3D Model is edited, no 2D-output linework needs to be manually updated.
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Forum Post: RE: ABD ss6 on Windows 10
Am I mad? In W7 Control Panel>System & Security>Windows Update>Show all available updates, I get a list, Important (1) and Optional (10 incl Nvidia etc drivers, also W10 upgrade) each with a checkbox. If I don't check the box it doesn't download.
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Forum Post: RE: We Need Separate Forward and Reflected Attributes for parts
I see, thanks for clarifying . I've checked this request and it has been approved by Development.
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Wiki Page: Unwanted Levels in AECOsim Building Designer DGN Files
Applies To Product(s): AECOsim Building Designer Version(s): 08.11.09.593 Environment: N/A Area: dgnlibs, levels, linestyles Subarea: Original Author: Marc Thomas, Bentley Technical Support Group The parts and family system can define different levels for forward, cut, reflected and centerline graphics. In non-Dynamic View based workflows the Drawing Extraction Manager created new elements in a separate file, this was not a problem. However, Dynamic Views do not create new elements or create separate files, as the same data is just displayed in a different presentation. The problem is that these alternate presentations cannot be created on levels that do not already exist. Therefore, as a workaround, the dataset is scanned for undefined levels, which are then added to the DGN-file . As a result, users may have levels in their DGN-files that they believe they have not used. Levels added to the active file are harvested from the Part & Family definitions for Cut Symbology, Forward/Reflected Symbology and Centerline Symbology. This scan is performed by default to support Dynamic Views. See Drawing Views [FAQ] (scroll down or search for BB_DVDATASETELEMENTS) for more details. Managing dgnlib files also suggests how to avoid levels being copied into dgnlibs when you are making changes to them.
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Wiki Page: Dataset Levels Required for DV Creation Are Not Copied into the Active File on Open
Applies To Product(s): AECOsim Building Designer V8i Version(s): 08.11.09.829 Environment: N/A Area: Dataset Subarea: Levels Original Author: Marc Thomas Problem AECOsim Building Designer copies required levels in from the dataset as described in Unwanted Levels in AECOsim Building Designer DGN Files. We have found a situation where this copying does not take place. If the active file has ‘Can be placed as a Cell’ turned on in the model properties the levels will not be copied. This is to prevent level contamination of cells. Solution Turn off ‘Can be placed as a Cell’ in all models contained in the affected file(s). See Also Product TechNotes and FAQs Building Product TechNotes And FAQs External Links Bentley Technical Support KnowledgeBase Bentley LEARN Server Comments or Corrections? Bentley's Technical Support Group requests that you please confine any comments you have on this Wiki entry to this "Comments or Corrections?" section. THANK YOU!
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Forum Post: RE: how to create a new plumbing equipment with a cell?
No, I'm not aware of anything specific to plumbing equipment. Can you elaborate further on what you've already tried and what did not work as expected? Perhaps we can tweak the work you've already done.
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Forum Post: RE: We Need Separate Forward and Reflected Attributes for parts
Yes, we do have an enhancement filed for this, and it was also mentioned here: communities.bentley.com/.../106776
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Forum Post: RE: IFC_EXPORT_RECOVERY vs IFC_CRASH_RECOVERY
OK... I've confirmed that IFC_EXPORT_RECOVERY is the valid configuration variable, and that IFC_CRASH_RECOVERY will be removed from the help. Granted, since IFC Export was moved to an external 64bit executable and therefore has access to more memory - the main reason the variable was added - the need for it these days is minimal.
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Forum Post: RE: how to create a new plumbing equipment with a cell?
ok,i had a cellbuit,it is a pumpgruop,with two pipe input diameter 60mm,one output diameter 42mm, create a new cusromddfinition pumpgroup.xsd in datagroupcatalogediter,create new type, link definition:pumpgroup.xsd endspec3_222.xsd, ....sorry,can i email to you all the detail i have done in monday,because all the files are in the office,i can't remenber all.
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Comment on Will Drawing Extraction Manager be phased out?
It would be extremely useful to provide a 'Sync Drawing Def to Drawing View' tool. DV's are great but there are projects are are still using DEM due to missing functionality in DV/BV's.
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Forum Post: RE: ABD ss6 on Windows 10
No. Not mad at all. You are just thinking about Windows 7 which does have this facility. Windows 10 does not. You can only defer updates. Presumably to give you time to find an update driver. In my case it is unlikely NVidia or anyone else (MS) is going to update a 5 year old graphics card. However my laptop is a hot machine with lots of life left in it yet and so.... The solution comes courtesy of Bentley and involves setting a couple of system variables. I have had mixed success doing this via the ucf configuration files particularly with AECOsim SS6 Go to Control Panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Environment Variables and make a new variable QV_D3DVERSION . Set its value to 9 and exit. That will fix SS6 by confining it to use DirectX 9. It also fixes Microstation SS3. No discernible reduction in performance. Go to Control Panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Environment Variables and make a new variable QV_DISABLE_D3D11 . Set its value to 1 and exit. That will fix Micfrostation Connect by disabling DirectX 11. I now have a 100% Windows 10 installation on a Dell M6500 Workstation with an NVidia FX3800M graphics card. Hope this helps others. Good luck but don't rely on this to fix your problem.
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Forum Post: AECOsim = Architectural Building DESIGNer + SIMULATION?
BBD has had design tools for a while, and now with SS6 environmental simulation via the new link up with AECOsim Energy Simulator. I suppose there is also a link via ISM to Bentley's structural analysis tools so that structural performance can be sim'd. What about architecture? What would be simulated? 1. Pedflow ? Space syntax? 2. Vehicular tracking? 4. Means of escape? 5. Visual impacts ? Viewshed analysis 6. Costs ? 7. Specs ? 8. Space adjacencies ? What kind of simulation tools should there be for architects?
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Forum Post: Extract to DGN - Save to DWG as Design Model not as Sheet Model, Can't seem to controld
DEM is extracting to Sheet Model. My workflow requires eventual saveas to DWG, meaning the extraction must be a Design Model to be saved as Modelspace in DWG...all else becomes Sheetspace. I've tried changing the seedfile used by the DEM, which only has Design Model now, but still get extraction as Sheet Model. Where is this controlled? By Configuration or Seed? As it is now, I have to manually change each file at creation and update prior to saveas. Lots of extra work. Please point me in the right direction. Thank you.
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Forum Post: RE: AECOsim = Architectural Building DESIGNer + SIMULATION?
I could see myself begining to get interested in this, once BD covers the basics competently - once it (ABD at least) becomes a flexible 3D modeller that can 'do anything' that an architect might wish to create (leaving aside curvaceous NC-manufactured facadery style of certain 'signature' architects - Hadid, Gehry etc). Specialising in automating commercial cuboid multi-storeys and 'decorated sheds' isn't enough, until general architectural competence is 'in the bag' - there's a whole realm of more interestingly shaped buildings (esp roofs) which none of the building modellers - Revit, Archicad etc - can handle (until now, in that newly-redesigned 'other system v15' which we can't mention). Once BD is competent to create more interesting archiitecture (even if that has to be done the old, basic way via TF Forms tools instead of the cuboid, more automated Place Wall etc DG tools) then yes I'm into Simulation. Energy Simulator is a great start. To Dominic's list I'd add: 9. Thermal Bridging examination of junction details - wall-to-floor, wall- to-window etc, as is vital for e.g. Certification to the Passive House standard, for which it's usually done in LBNL Therm (free but old fashioned and just 2D) or several other FEA-style thermal programs that have appeared recently, some of which can do 3D corners too. These model the steady-state heat flow at set internal (21C) external (0C), subsoil (10C) etc temperatures assuming thermal equilibriation has happened (though it never does settle down like that). 10. Heat, Moisture, Interstitial Condensation etc simulation, typically done using WUFI (Wärme Und Feuchte Instationar), Delphin or others that are appearing. These dynamically model the heat and moisture flows in say a wall 'sandwich', which flow to and fro most spectacularly and irregularly on diurnal and annual cycles; you plug in the actual weather data file for the actual site and run it through a year. Interstitial Condensation risk, Mould growth etc can be assessed for any wall 'sandwich', which can then be tweaked. WUFI is 1D; there is a 2D version too. 11. Embodied Energy and Life-Cycle Impact assessment of constructions. In this, the Mech Eng/Product design world has come from behind to way ahead of Building; such on-the-fly scoring tools are embedded in their softwares. These three are vital to the emerging world of eco-priority, green architecture etc - something that Bentley seems unaware of, as the industrial software of choice for all the world's most eco-profligate schemes.
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